Which makes me wonder if Robespierre would be politically more palatable to these people if he had mistreated his dog. I doubt it. You really can't win with these people. (Not that I'm suggesting that animal abuse would be an acceptable strategy for getting people to like you if it worked. But seriously, if he had mistreated his dog, they would just call him a sociopath and be done with it.)
Although I also found this which amused me. I kind of want to see what that book (pamphlet?) says. But then again, I've seen so many mentions of Brount, frequently contradictory, so I wouldn't hold out much hope of something like this resolving the question. I've seen Brount's name as Blount and Bruant, and I've read in more than one novel (but never in any non-fiction source) that Brount was named after some obscure Englishman (about whom I could never find any information either), so either they're cribbing from each other or they had some common source that I haven't come across. The consensus seems pretty solid on how Robespierre got Brount, and that Brount was a large dog, but other than that... I mean, I have more solid information about Le Bas's dog than Robespierre's, for crying out loud. (Let's note in passing that Le Bas also had a dog which by all accounts he treated well. Clearly he was a Nazi too.)
Which does make me wonder who is the real Nazi, the person who shares some incidental trait with a Nazi leader or the person who shares political opinions with them. Hmm? Hm, between homophobia and dog-ownership... It's a close one, but I think I'm going to have to go with the former.
Randomly - dog ownership in the UK is highest where the votes for neo-fascist parties are lowest. Clearly they all abuse their dogs.
If I were to go mad, that would definately be the crazy I'd apply for. It doesn't sound too bad, does it? You have a point there. However, I don't think it's a crazy Hilary Mantel does have, because I can't imagine even figments of Revolutionaries would want to have themselves portrayed so odiously.
She'd probably ask why you were wasting your precious youth in academic study when surely what you want to be doing is having babies. And then patronise you some more for being under twenty-seven. True. Well then, I wish I could borrow a middle-aged man to ask her, just to see her reaction.
That's why I do find Mantel's "Anything that seems particularly unlikely is probably true."/"As a guideline for the reader, I can proffer this: whatever seems most unlikely in this book is not made up by me." the vilest of her vile views because it discourages questioning and disempowers the reader. ...Not to mention the fact that if people take her at her word, they end up believing things like Danton was executed chiefly because the evil Mme Le Bas falsely accused him of rape.
I have to admit I dismissed the Robespierre-is-just-a-killer as revolution_fr's community troll. You're probably right, in this case, but there are entire other communities - usually centering about Antoinette - where such views are commonly held. Not to mention forums where people debate - without offering any evidence to back them up, mind you - Robespierre's supposed lack of sanity in perfect seriousness and sincerity.
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I doubt it. You really can't win with these people. (Not that I'm suggesting that animal abuse would be an acceptable strategy for getting people to like you if it worked. But seriously, if he had mistreated his dog, they would just call him a sociopath and be done with it.)
Although I also found this which amused me.
I kind of want to see what that book (pamphlet?) says. But then again, I've seen so many mentions of Brount, frequently contradictory, so I wouldn't hold out much hope of something like this resolving the question. I've seen Brount's name as Blount and Bruant, and I've read in more than one novel (but never in any non-fiction source) that Brount was named after some obscure Englishman (about whom I could never find any information either), so either they're cribbing from each other or they had some common source that I haven't come across. The consensus seems pretty solid on how Robespierre got Brount, and that Brount was a large dog, but other than that... I mean, I have more solid information about Le Bas's dog than Robespierre's, for crying out loud. (Let's note in passing that Le Bas also had a dog which by all accounts he treated well. Clearly he was a Nazi too.)
Which does make me wonder who is the real Nazi, the person who shares some incidental trait with a Nazi leader or the person who shares political opinions with them. Hmm?
Hm, between homophobia and dog-ownership... It's a close one, but I think I'm going to have to go with the former.
Randomly - dog ownership in the UK is highest where the votes for neo-fascist parties are lowest.
Clearly they all abuse their dogs.
If I were to go mad, that would definately be the crazy I'd apply for. It doesn't sound too bad, does it?
You have a point there. However, I don't think it's a crazy Hilary Mantel does have, because I can't imagine even figments of Revolutionaries would want to have themselves portrayed so odiously.
She'd probably ask why you were wasting your precious youth in academic study when surely what you want to be doing is having babies. And then patronise you some more for being under twenty-seven.
True. Well then, I wish I could borrow a middle-aged man to ask her, just to see her reaction.
That's why I do find Mantel's "Anything that seems particularly unlikely is probably true."/"As a guideline for the reader, I can proffer this: whatever seems most unlikely in this book is not made up by me." the vilest of her vile views because it discourages questioning and disempowers the reader.
...Not to mention the fact that if people take her at her word, they end up believing things like Danton was executed chiefly because the evil Mme Le Bas falsely accused him of rape.
I have to admit I dismissed the Robespierre-is-just-a-killer as revolution_fr's community troll.
You're probably right, in this case, but there are entire other communities - usually centering about Antoinette - where such views are commonly held. Not to mention forums where people debate - without offering any evidence to back them up, mind you - Robespierre's supposed lack of sanity in perfect seriousness and sincerity.