montagnarde1793: (la douce melancolie)
montagnarde1793 ([personal profile] montagnarde1793) wrote2009-09-02 06:05 pm

See, not everything you find on google searches featuring Maxime are bad...

...Some of them are just amusing/bemusing. Try this one, for example. They really seem to have picked the wrong kind of tart, don't they? Or take the logo of the École Robespierre in Nanterre. I'm not yet sure whether that qualifies as cute or creepy looking. Either way though, it's good that he at least has this little elementary school named after him.

As for me, things are not going well. I was going to have an audition today, but I have yet another cold, once again precluding my taking voice lessons with a professor. And I feel sure I would have done well in this audition. I'm half being to think there's some kind of conspiracy going on to stop me from singing. In other news, I've dropped Roman History in favor of Calculus. I kind of regret not giving the class more of a chance, if only to see to what extent I may have been exaggerating the professor's tendencies to myself (see previous post). But, alas, Calculus meets at the same time. So much for that.

[identity profile] estellacat.livejournal.com 2009-09-05 04:17 pm (UTC)(link)
Hm, do you mean you have a different vision of the Romans than mine, or than Becquaert's? Because I think now my problem with their judgment is that I don't think they would condemn Robespierre by the criteria they give in the play, because now I think that by Roman standards (which at heart are really different from the overt motivations in the play) they would have condemned him.
...The issue is, the Romans probably would have been fine with those of his actions modern people find most questionable and condemned him for what we would see as his most laudable qualities.

That's really quite interesting. I guess the légende noire hasn't quite made it to Japan then...? Because I can't imagine that they could portray him as the Bloodthirsty Dictator of the propaganda we have to deal with over here and still view him that way.

[identity profile] sibylla-oo.livejournal.com 2009-09-05 05:10 pm (UTC)(link)
Exactly, I couldn't have written it better. I didn't mean your review, I meant Becquaert's vision of Romans. I don't think they'd be bothered by some of the things she supposes they would be. And that they would not see him as a hypocrit in the things related to the Virtue and to the Republic. Why should they? I think what would have bothered them would be his lack of action in the last months of his life, not the Terror.
As for the Japanese, it seems to me that the Bloodthirsty dictator porpaganda does not work so well with them. It seems they are rather assimilating him to the traditional figures of Japanese magistrates: serious, powerful, learned men who were supposed to bear the responsibility of making difficult, even harsh decisions for the benefit of the whole. And their culture still values less the hedonism, and appreciates more the austerity and the incorrutibility of the magistrates, at least in theory.

[identity profile] estellacat.livejournal.com 2009-09-05 07:41 pm (UTC)(link)
See, this is what leads me to believe that we're perhaps supposed to infer that the action of the play is all going on in Robespierre's head. Because the vision of the Romans given, while it doesn't seem to have a lot in common with our conception of them, does seem pretty close to general views of them in the 18th century.
But in any case, that's exactly what I mean: the Romans probably wouldn't like him much, but not for the reasons that would seem most obvious to us.
You may have a point there. I don't really know much about Japanese culture, but it would be nice if we could import the part about appreciating austerity and incorruptibility.