montagnarde1793: (Maxime)
montagnarde1793 ([personal profile] montagnarde1793) wrote2006-05-29 10:25 am

Antoinette movie

This movie is really going to suck. Muchly.

http://www.liberation.fr/page.php?Article=384772

Apparently the People are reduced to the stereotypical "angry mob" so if the average viewer does not like barbie-pink!Antoinette, they'll have little choice in sympathies, because she and the rest of the Court will be the only human characters.

It's a lot easier for most people to sympathize with one person, even if she is the most annoying bimbo they have ever seen, than a "mob" with a good reason to be angry!

That said, from what I can tell, Liberation is treating this with irony, and seems to be pointing out that the subject matter is somewhat....irrelevant: big surprise there!
...at any rate, it's not a positive review, and I like the publication overall, so...

[identity profile] estellacat.livejournal.com 2006-05-30 05:47 am (UTC)(link)
...Which, of course, is quite possibly the worst thing about it.

[identity profile] josiana.livejournal.com 2006-05-30 05:57 am (UTC)(link)
I know. They seem to be determined to focus on the fuzzy, happy, fairytale marketable aspects of her life, or something.

[identity profile] estellacat.livejournal.com 2006-05-30 05:59 am (UTC)(link)
It would be a good theory, except for the fact that the guillotine is infinitely marketable. No, Sofia Coppola's only doing this for her own vanity. Many people think up Mary Sues; she has the wealth and influence to be able to make a movie about hers. I just wish she wouldn't inflict it on the rest of us!

[identity profile] josiana.livejournal.com 2006-05-30 06:06 am (UTC)(link)
It is? I always assumed people would prefer not to that sort of thing. Or found it depressing, or something.
That makes a lot more sense...
I know. It's horrible. *sobs quietly*

[identity profile] estellacat.livejournal.com 2006-05-30 06:10 am (UTC)(link)
Well considering all the hype around the bicentenial....Not that I know personally of course, but from what I hear there was a large market for toy guillotines and the like. *shrugs*
*weeps for the future of humanity* Why, Sofia, WHY?

[identity profile] josiana.livejournal.com 2006-05-30 06:22 am (UTC)(link)
*giggles* Awww. I want one. XD

I have no idea. *sobs* Why couldn't she just be dangerously obsessed with Marat instead? At least that would be original.

[identity profile] estellacat.livejournal.com 2006-05-30 02:41 pm (UTC)(link)
I think you can still get them....somewhere.

And hilarious! OMSB, that would make such a funny movie! Especially if Marat wears a fluffy dress.

[identity profile] josiana.livejournal.com 2006-05-30 08:44 pm (UTC)(link)
I'll look for them. Muahahahaha. X3

I know. They could have angry punk rock music, too. A pink one. He might ooze all over it, though.

[identity profile] estellacat.livejournal.com 2006-05-30 11:40 pm (UTC)(link)
I saw a guillotine paperweight once...

XD That would be beyond awesome. Ewww....then again, it is Marat. It can always be washed, I suppose.

[identity profile] josiana.livejournal.com 2006-05-30 11:49 pm (UTC)(link)
*giggles*

Punk!Marat is an amusing mental image. Oooh, that gives me an idea. It can be a tacky romantic comedy. He could fall in love with Simone Evrard based solely on her ability to clean his frilly dresses. Of course that would mess up the timeline a bit, but no one will know the difference.

[identity profile] estellacat.livejournal.com 2006-05-30 11:50 pm (UTC)(link)
And my sister says she had a History teacher who had a miniature working model. It decapitated pencils.

And about as accurate as Barbie!Antoinette. ...That would be rather amusing, in a somewhat sick way.

[identity profile] josiana.livejournal.com 2006-05-30 11:55 pm (UTC)(link)
Were they counter-revolutionary pencils? That seems like something one wouldn't want to have around children...

Probably. And no one will scream at us for it, because Marat has no rabid fangirls or fanboys. At least, I don't think so.

I am vaguely tempted to try and draw a poster for it now. With sickening pink font. XD

[identity profile] estellacat.livejournal.com 2006-05-30 11:59 pm (UTC)(link)
Naturally. Probably, but he was a High School teacher, so it was....not as bad, I guess.

Well that one historian, Massin tried to do the same rehabilitation for Marat as was (and is being) done for Robespierre, so presumably he has some fans...

You so should; it would be hysterical! ...Please?

[identity profile] josiana.livejournal.com 2006-05-31 12:14 am (UTC)(link)
Oh. That's good. It might be awkward if lots of small children suddenly lost fingers. O.o

Really? I didn't know that.

I'll try. I doubt it will look good, since I can't draw Marat at all. Oh well. I can blame my artistic shortcomings on the desire to be trendy and connect with modern audiences.

[identity profile] estellacat.livejournal.com 2006-05-31 12:29 am (UTC)(link)
Really. I don't think they teach small children about the Revolution though, do they?

*nods* I haven't read his biography of Marat, but he makes allusions to it in his Robespierre biography.

Why not? That's what Sofia Coppola did.

[identity profile] josiana.livejournal.com 2006-05-31 12:45 am (UTC)(link)
Um. I vaguely remember being taught something about it when I was 11, but I guess it varies from school to school.

Oooh, cool. :D

Do I have to make Marat a thinly veiled representation of myself, though? Because I don't think that will work so well.

[identity profile] estellacat.livejournal.com 2006-05-31 01:04 am (UTC)(link)
Well, I mean, not in detail, right?

...I've never actually read a biography of Marat. Then again, I've never actually read a full biography of any Revolutionary except Robespierre--I probably ought to.

You don't have to; I don't see how you could without distorting someone's character. Although, it would undoubtedly be amusing.

[identity profile] josiana.livejournal.com 2006-05-31 01:46 am (UTC)(link)
No, alas.

I haven't either, but that's mainly due to not being able to find any.

And since amusement is what we're going for, I suppose that would be a good thing?

[identity profile] estellacat.livejournal.com 2006-05-31 01:51 am (UTC)(link)
They probably thought it would traumatize the poor, innocent children;)

...I'm sure they exist. I have one on Saint-Just, but I'm not sure I want to read it considering the author referred to him as "demonic" in the preface...

Possibly, but I think it would be difficult to create a self-insert!Marat....not to mention highly disturbing.

[identity profile] josiana.livejournal.com 2006-05-31 01:56 am (UTC)(link)
But how can they be trained to be good Republicans if we don't start them at an early age? ;___;

Oh dear. Poor Saint-Just. He wasn't quite that bad, I don't think. Er, I suppose you could always read it for the sake of amusement.

You're probably right. I'd hate to think what that would say about me...o.O;

[identity profile] estellacat.livejournal.com 2006-05-31 02:01 am (UTC)(link)
You forget this particular government doesn't follow our logic.

...That's possible, I suppose.

If you managed to pull it off, you mean?

[identity profile] josiana.livejournal.com 2006-05-31 02:04 am (UTC)(link)
Eeep, you're right.

Though it would probably be an unnessecary annoyance.

Yes.

[identity profile] estellacat.livejournal.com 2006-05-31 02:07 am (UTC)(link)
Sadly...

It's no wonder really; my sister, the rabid Camille-fan, gave it to me. She blames him entirely for Camille's death.
...Okay so it was partially his fault, but still.

Don't worry; I highly doubt you'd be able to.

[identity profile] josiana.livejournal.com 2006-05-31 02:14 am (UTC)(link)
Oh well. Maybe one day. *sniffles pitifully*

*giggles* I have this disturbing mental image of demonic!Saint-Just with little horns chasing Camille around with a pitchfork.

You're probably right. I'm much too vapid for this sort of thing. Besides, I don't really want to contract a horrible skin disease. Even if it would make me more credible.

[identity profile] estellacat.livejournal.com 2006-05-31 02:17 am (UTC)(link)
...Wouldn't that be nice? *sighs*

*sporfle* It would of course have to be chibi!Camille. With cookies.

I never really got that either....How does being diseased make one credible, exactly?

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