Antoinette movie

Monday, 29 May 2006 10:25
montagnarde1793: (Maxime)
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This movie is really going to suck. Muchly.

http://www.liberation.fr/page.php?Article=384772

Apparently the People are reduced to the stereotypical "angry mob" so if the average viewer does not like barbie-pink!Antoinette, they'll have little choice in sympathies, because she and the rest of the Court will be the only human characters.

It's a lot easier for most people to sympathize with one person, even if she is the most annoying bimbo they have ever seen, than a "mob" with a good reason to be angry!

That said, from what I can tell, Liberation is treating this with irony, and seems to be pointing out that the subject matter is somewhat....irrelevant: big surprise there!
...at any rate, it's not a positive review, and I like the publication overall, so...

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Date: Tuesday, 30 May 2006 23:55 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] josiana.livejournal.com
Were they counter-revolutionary pencils? That seems like something one wouldn't want to have around children...

Probably. And no one will scream at us for it, because Marat has no rabid fangirls or fanboys. At least, I don't think so.

I am vaguely tempted to try and draw a poster for it now. With sickening pink font. XD

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Date: Tuesday, 30 May 2006 23:59 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] estellacat.livejournal.com
Naturally. Probably, but he was a High School teacher, so it was....not as bad, I guess.

Well that one historian, Massin tried to do the same rehabilitation for Marat as was (and is being) done for Robespierre, so presumably he has some fans...

You so should; it would be hysterical! ...Please?

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Date: Wednesday, 31 May 2006 00:14 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] josiana.livejournal.com
Oh. That's good. It might be awkward if lots of small children suddenly lost fingers. O.o

Really? I didn't know that.

I'll try. I doubt it will look good, since I can't draw Marat at all. Oh well. I can blame my artistic shortcomings on the desire to be trendy and connect with modern audiences.

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Date: Wednesday, 31 May 2006 00:29 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] estellacat.livejournal.com
Really. I don't think they teach small children about the Revolution though, do they?

*nods* I haven't read his biography of Marat, but he makes allusions to it in his Robespierre biography.

Why not? That's what Sofia Coppola did.

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Date: Wednesday, 31 May 2006 00:45 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] josiana.livejournal.com
Um. I vaguely remember being taught something about it when I was 11, but I guess it varies from school to school.

Oooh, cool. :D

Do I have to make Marat a thinly veiled representation of myself, though? Because I don't think that will work so well.

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Date: Wednesday, 31 May 2006 01:04 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] estellacat.livejournal.com
Well, I mean, not in detail, right?

...I've never actually read a biography of Marat. Then again, I've never actually read a full biography of any Revolutionary except Robespierre--I probably ought to.

You don't have to; I don't see how you could without distorting someone's character. Although, it would undoubtedly be amusing.

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Date: Wednesday, 31 May 2006 01:46 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] josiana.livejournal.com
No, alas.

I haven't either, but that's mainly due to not being able to find any.

And since amusement is what we're going for, I suppose that would be a good thing?

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Date: Wednesday, 31 May 2006 01:51 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] estellacat.livejournal.com
They probably thought it would traumatize the poor, innocent children;)

...I'm sure they exist. I have one on Saint-Just, but I'm not sure I want to read it considering the author referred to him as "demonic" in the preface...

Possibly, but I think it would be difficult to create a self-insert!Marat....not to mention highly disturbing.

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Date: Wednesday, 31 May 2006 01:56 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] josiana.livejournal.com
But how can they be trained to be good Republicans if we don't start them at an early age? ;___;

Oh dear. Poor Saint-Just. He wasn't quite that bad, I don't think. Er, I suppose you could always read it for the sake of amusement.

You're probably right. I'd hate to think what that would say about me...o.O;

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Date: Wednesday, 31 May 2006 02:01 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] estellacat.livejournal.com
You forget this particular government doesn't follow our logic.

...That's possible, I suppose.

If you managed to pull it off, you mean?

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Date: Wednesday, 31 May 2006 02:04 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] josiana.livejournal.com
Eeep, you're right.

Though it would probably be an unnessecary annoyance.

Yes.

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Date: Wednesday, 31 May 2006 02:07 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] estellacat.livejournal.com
Sadly...

It's no wonder really; my sister, the rabid Camille-fan, gave it to me. She blames him entirely for Camille's death.
...Okay so it was partially his fault, but still.

Don't worry; I highly doubt you'd be able to.

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Date: Wednesday, 31 May 2006 02:14 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] josiana.livejournal.com
Oh well. Maybe one day. *sniffles pitifully*

*giggles* I have this disturbing mental image of demonic!Saint-Just with little horns chasing Camille around with a pitchfork.

You're probably right. I'm much too vapid for this sort of thing. Besides, I don't really want to contract a horrible skin disease. Even if it would make me more credible.

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Date: Wednesday, 31 May 2006 02:17 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] estellacat.livejournal.com
...Wouldn't that be nice? *sighs*

*sporfle* It would of course have to be chibi!Camille. With cookies.

I never really got that either....How does being diseased make one credible, exactly?

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Date: Wednesday, 31 May 2006 02:22 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] josiana.livejournal.com
It would. I doubt it will happen anytime soon, though.

Yes. Awww. Poor Camille. His life is such a trying experience.

Um. Well, it might if you were claiming to be like Marat it would, but otherwise, I have no idea.

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Date: Wednesday, 31 May 2006 02:31 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] estellacat.livejournal.com
*weeps*

*snerk* ...One of us needs to draw that. Preferably you, because I can't draw chibis...

No, I mean, didn't he think it made him more credible?

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Date: Wednesday, 31 May 2006 02:34 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] josiana.livejournal.com
Oh noes! *offers little Maxime plushies and tarts*

I could try. I can't promise to finish it in any reasonable amount of time, though. ^^;

I dunno. I don't know as much about Marat as I should.


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Date: Wednesday, 31 May 2006 02:38 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] estellacat.livejournal.com
*pets plushies; munches tarts; sniffs* Thank you; if only it were so easy to get a decent government around here...

It's okay--you really ought to do it, though.

I seem to recall that he did, but, as I said, I've never read a biography of him, so really, what do I know?

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Date: Wednesday, 31 May 2006 02:42 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] josiana.livejournal.com
Er, well, maybe if you managed to start your own country on a small island somewhere, you could run it properly?

I probably will. It doesn't sound that complicated. ^_^

He might've.

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Date: Wednesday, 31 May 2006 02:44 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] estellacat.livejournal.com
...They might not be a bad idea.

But it will make up for it in amusing-ness.

Curse my un-knowledge of Marat!

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Date: Wednesday, 31 May 2006 02:48 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] josiana.livejournal.com
It would be complicated, though.

Yes. Muahahahaha.

It's okay, really. You don't need to know anything about him to write a film about him. Realy.

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Date: Wednesday, 31 May 2006 02:55 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] estellacat.livejournal.com
*sighs* It was a nice thought!

...Draw it.

Oh, no, of course not! Why would anyone do a thing like that?

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Date: Wednesday, 31 May 2006 22:12 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] josiana.livejournal.com
Oh well. Maybe one day.

Was that an order, citizen? ^_^
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v222/elvenmongoose/demonsaintjust.jpg

Someone might actually make an accurate movie that way! We can't have that!

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Date: Wednesday, 31 May 2006 22:44 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] estellacat.livejournal.com
No, of course not! We're all free and equal here....More of a practical suggestion, if you will.

OMSBAFSKD;SDKLSDJIODOS!!!!!!111!!1!!!1
That is the cuted, most messed up drawing I have ever seen. You win at life.

Definitely not! Can you imagine the public reaction???

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Date: Wednesday, 31 May 2006 23:20 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] josiana.livejournal.com
It sounded like an order.

Thank you. *blush* Poor Saint-Just. I'm sure he's spinning in his grave at this point.

There would be rioting in the streets!

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