Antoinette movie

Monday, 29 May 2006 10:25
montagnarde1793: (Maxime)
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This movie is really going to suck. Muchly.

http://www.liberation.fr/page.php?Article=384772

Apparently the People are reduced to the stereotypical "angry mob" so if the average viewer does not like barbie-pink!Antoinette, they'll have little choice in sympathies, because she and the rest of the Court will be the only human characters.

It's a lot easier for most people to sympathize with one person, even if she is the most annoying bimbo they have ever seen, than a "mob" with a good reason to be angry!

That said, from what I can tell, Liberation is treating this with irony, and seems to be pointing out that the subject matter is somewhat....irrelevant: big surprise there!
...at any rate, it's not a positive review, and I like the publication overall, so...

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Date: Tuesday, 30 May 2006 14:55 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] estellacat.livejournal.com
Look, I didn't vote for it! Did we even have the comité then?

I doubt you could find anyone interested in the topic at all who would volunteer not to see the movie at least once for our boycott. So as I said, it would be seven people against the movie industry. Somehow, I doubt they'd be hurt.

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Date: Tuesday, 30 May 2006 15:50 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] daughtermestizo.livejournal.com
No, not for another four days. And I wasn't blaming you personally.

You're awfully pessimistic. I'm quite sure there are other people willing to boycott the movie. In fact, if it's a bad movie in general, people will boycott it naturally. I think there are more people with good taste in movies than there are rabid Kirsten Dunst fans.

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Date: Tuesday, 30 May 2006 23:39 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] estellacat.livejournal.com
....You so were. *weeps*

One can hope. Bring it up with the comité if you think I'm being especially pessimistic, though; I'm sure the others will agree with me.

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Date: Wednesday, 31 May 2006 01:14 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] daughtermestizo.livejournal.com
*pats* I wasn't, I assure you.

>_> That's because you radicals are naturally hard to please.

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Date: Wednesday, 31 May 2006 01:35 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] estellacat.livejournal.com
I don't guillotine people without a trial. Even if it is rigged...

One might just as easily say that you moderates are too credulous.

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Date: Wednesday, 31 May 2006 01:37 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] daughtermestizo.livejournal.com
Hear hear!

Some, perhaps. I merely believe that simpler methods ARE possible.

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Date: Wednesday, 31 May 2006 01:39 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] estellacat.livejournal.com
*bows*

I would be interested to see your logic...

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Date: Wednesday, 31 May 2006 01:41 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] daughtermestizo.livejournal.com
*applauds*

I could say the same...

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Date: Wednesday, 31 May 2006 01:45 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] estellacat.livejournal.com
Verily, it is an amazing feat;)

*shakes head* Poor, confused moderée...

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Date: Wednesday, 31 May 2006 01:52 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] daughtermestizo.livejournal.com
What, a fair trial?

Psht. You radicals are all the same.

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Date: Wednesday, 31 May 2006 01:54 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] estellacat.livejournal.com
Yes; or more precisely, resisting the temptation not to give one to people you don't like. (Not of course, that you're among their number, but as a more general historical example.)

*sniffs* I'm unique, dammit!

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Date: Wednesday, 31 May 2006 01:57 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] daughtermestizo.livejournal.com
What a novel idea!

*raises brow* How so?

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Date: Wednesday, 31 May 2006 01:59 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] estellacat.livejournal.com
...You're laughing at me, aren't you?

I don't guillotine people without trial!

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Date: Wednesday, 31 May 2006 02:00 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] daughtermestizo.livejournal.com
No, but I WAS being sarcastic.

Neither did the radicals 'til Thermidor 10. ...I think?
But if you're talking about us, then you're at least different from Ziggy and Amys.

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Date: Wednesday, 31 May 2006 02:03 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] estellacat.livejournal.com
*sniffs*

...You did not just lump me in with Thermidorians! ...And what about the Girondins (the ones that ran away, that is...)? See, I told you!

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Date: Wednesday, 31 May 2006 02:07 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] daughtermestizo.livejournal.com
*pats*

Woah, woah...what?

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Date: Wednesday, 31 May 2006 02:12 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] estellacat.livejournal.com
I do think people should be given fair trials whenever possible...

Quick, who was doing the executing 10 Thermidor? Are they the sort of "radicals" I associate with? Or did I not tear them limb from limb in cookie form?
As to the Girondins, the law applied on the night of 9 Thermidor was the same that Saint-Just had put through earlier to speed the execution of the Girondins; those that had fled were declared outlaws and only needed to be identified to be executed.

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Date: Wednesday, 31 May 2006 02:15 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] daughtermestizo.livejournal.com
Excellent. You have redeemed yourself.

*giggles* You did, you did. I was, of course, not associating you with them: merely pointing out that UNTIL then, even the radicals did not execute people without trial.

And I'd heard it was Maxime who helped put that law through. Wasn't sure I believed it...

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Date: Wednesday, 31 May 2006 02:20 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] estellacat.livejournal.com
*grins*

But didn't I just point out that they kind of did?

I'm pretty sure it was Saint-Just, but I suppose I could research it more...

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Date: Wednesday, 31 May 2006 02:25 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] daughtermestizo.livejournal.com
Kind of. That law may suck but it does, technically, cover it.

Yeah, I'd mostly heard Maxime; but like I said, I'm not sure I believe it.

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Date: Wednesday, 31 May 2006 02:33 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] estellacat.livejournal.com
Just as I said.

I don't believe it either, for three reasons: one, I've never heard that, two, as a person with his Oeuvres and numerous books about him, I've never seen any evidence for it, and three, it seems incongruous for the man who saved seventy-three Girondins. I will look into it further, though.

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Date: Wednesday, 31 May 2006 02:40 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] daughtermestizo.livejournal.com
It seems illogical to me simply because Maxime always insisted on legality. And if I were him (which I'm obviously not, but still...) I'd consider executing someone without any form of trial to be illegal, outlaw or no.

I mean, he DID disapprove of a trial for the King, but that's different.

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Date: Wednesday, 31 May 2006 02:41 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] estellacat.livejournal.com
Well, he did say unjust laws weren't laws, so you may be right about that...

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Date: Wednesday, 31 May 2006 02:43 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] daughtermestizo.livejournal.com
Did he? Oooooooooh, I'm going to steal that quote!

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Date: Wednesday, 31 May 2006 02:45 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] estellacat.livejournal.com
Yes....I forget where though.
...I'll try to find it.

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