The Very Long Post (all right, *posts*): Part II

[montagnarde1793]

Now for an article and a link which should have ranting, but don't because....they just don't. XD

I must say, I'm not quite sure why this book needed to exist, but since it does, a rather annoying compilation of reviews. As promised, I will leave off the rant, but I do entreat you to consider the sentence "Marie-Antoinette's greatest sin, it seems, was that she insisted on being herself", and shudder with me.

Item Two: I don't know how many of you have seen the new and decidedly un-improved version of the Antoinette movie's website, but the production notes are truly frightening.....In related news, the one supposedly "authentic" piece of music there was written by Scarlatti, an Italian composer who died in 1725. Does anyone else think the odds of that being played in Versailles during Antoinette's stay there are just a *bit* low?

Next Post: The root of all that is wrong with American politics, brought to you by my ever-so-annoying-and-obviously-biased AP US History class, and my review of Manon, as performed this past Saturday evening at the LA Opera (including rant about alternate stagings and how they never show my favorite operas--or they show them at times and in places there is no way I can possibly be).

Comments

[rainofthenight.livejournal.com]

Oh yes, being forced to establsih such a wardrobe was truly a burden to her... :rolls eyes: Waste of paper!

[estellacat.livejournal.com]

And, to make matters worse, this is a *condensed* article; every article mentioned here is probably at least a couple of pages in its own right!

[polypragmosyne.livejournal.com]

I really wonder why do they always focus on her being a teenager (my ebil self says she was less mature than a teenager :P ) and on the episode of the change of clothes. It's too simplistic.

"Marie-Antoinette's greatest sin, it seems, was that she insisted on being herself"

But she never was- crudely, her job was to be a queen, and she behave like a shopaholic wife of a millionaire. And it's not the same thing :P

new and decidedly un-improved version of the Antoinette movie's website

She's just scary, watching you from the first page *shudder*

[estellacat.livejournal.com]

I don't really understand that aspect of it; after all, the concept of being a "teenager" didn't exist until the 20th century. And even if it had existed, she was only under twenty for five of her twenty-something years in France.

Obviously. How on earth is spending a lot of money the equivalent to "being herself"?

She's just scary, watching you from the first page *shudder*
And does she seem at all drugged out in that picture to you?

[maelicia.livejournal.com]

Yes, she's on fucking drugs. And that's not Robespierriste crack.

[estellacat.livejournal.com]

I bet they took that from the scene in the movie where she smokes opium or something like that...

[maelicia.livejournal.com]

SHE SMOKES OPIUM IN THE MOVIE??? O__________O

[estellacat.livejournal.com]

Apparently....and she takes snuff, I believe.

[maelicia.livejournal.com]

NOOOO. WHY, SUPREME BEING, WHY? POURQUOI?? AAAH.

[estellacat.livejournal.com]

I really couldn't say why; apparently they thought it would make her more like a rebellious teenager...or something. >_______

[maelicia.livejournal.com]

*contemplates stabbing self again*

[estellacat.livejournal.com]

It's not worth it! Not over something like this at least....Despite the extremely disturbing implications.

[maelicia.livejournal.com]

Are you sure it's not worth it?

[estellacat.livejournal.com]

At least wait until you've seen it. *Then* it might not be ill-advised to stab yourself.

[maelicia.livejournal.com]

Oh. Oooh right. Sure :D

[estellacat.livejournal.com]

...Although I'm sure you could think of less painful ways to die.

[maelicia.livejournal.com]

I guess... I can go back to the virtual shooting.

[estellacat.livejournal.com]

It's probably better that way. After all, the only one who stabbed himself during the Revolution was, I believe, a Girondin.

[maelicia.livejournal.com]

Yes... but Saint-Just referred to stabbing himself -- and didn't do it. See, my whole obsession about stabbing myself was optimistic, after all.

[estellacat.livejournal.com]

Well, as long as you don't actually do it I suppose it's all right. If you say so. XD

[trf-chan.livejournal.com]

"Marie-Antoinette's greatest sin, it seems, was that she insisted on being herself."

...AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. That is, almost hands down, the most hilariously sad thing I've heard for some time.

[estellacat.livejournal.com]

*grins* Isn't it though?

But then....*shudders* There are some people who actually believe that!

[maelicia.livejournal.com]

PROTO-FEMINIST?????????????????????????????????????????


I feel like dying.
...did I ever tell you that? I think I might have forgotten to. I don't have much time to really develop on this, so I'll simply repeat that I really do feel like dying.

*stabs self*




Btw, I finished writing the first draft of my future letter to Hilary Mantel. I might consider writing to Sofia Coppola after that. SINCERELY.

[estellacat.livejournal.com]

Don't die!......but HOW could ANYONE think that? HOW? I just don't understand it.

I finished writing the first draft of my future letter to Hilary Mantel.
Can I see it?

[maelicia.livejournal.com]

I'll try not to... just because I have no idea if death would be worse or better. And I don't know if I'd be allowed to get a small sight of their Spartan-like French Elysium.

I don't know how they can possibly think she was a proto-feminist. I don't know why they believe that the rococo whores founded the "empire of women". I don't know why the fucking Merveilleuses are in charge of our society. I just wish I'd know, but I have no answer. I keep on screaming POURQUOI to the sky well... the ceiling and THEY DON'T ANSWER ME.
Note that they probably don't answer because they have no answer either. Or rather, I know what they'd answer. David would have a fit. Le Bas would weep. Saint-Just would sneer. And Maxime would just blink and wonder what my over-dramatic pourquoi is all about. No idea what Couthon would say though. Maybe he should answer me then.


Sure. I sent it to you :D

[estellacat.livejournal.com]

But wouldn't it be awesome if you could?

to the sky well... the ceiling
*sporfle*

Don't you think Maxime would be upset too?

[maelicia.livejournal.com]

Well, I thought you didn't want me to die, but of course, I could always try to stab myself while listenning to La Marseillaise and see if it would work. But... I'm not sure I could actually tell you if I got a glimpse of the French Revolutionary Elysium -- unless they find me at the right time and wake me up from my coma. But then, to get my complete report on it, you'd have to wait that the medical authorities allow me to get me out of the mental hospital -- after they desperately try to understand for months and months why the hell I wanted to see the French Revolutionary Elysium and why I had to stab myself for it and why I hate our present world so much.

I can always wait to see it again in dreams... but that's more complex and long because I have to wait for it to happen.

Maybe he'd be upset... but it might take him a while before he realises there are half-dressed chicks all around. Knowing Maxime, he wouldn't get it, at first.

[estellacat.livejournal.com]

I meant *eventually*--Really! Don't stab yourself, listening to La Marseillaise or otherwise!

Well, you know....he's oblivious, but I don't know that he's *that* oblivious.

[maelicia.livejournal.com]

...You think I shouldn't? ;___;

Who knows. *shrugs*

[estellacat.livejournal.com]

You think you should?!

I suppose we don't...but I still say he would be upset to know that Marveilleuses are running things.

[maelicia.livejournal.com]

I don't know... sometimes. ;______________;

After we explain him what are Merveilleuses, yes.

[estellacat.livejournal.com]

Just.....don't. ;__;

Oh...I don't suppose he would know, would he?

[maelicia.livejournal.com]

...I'll try not to ;__;

Indeed not, since they came after... after him. *weeps*

[estellacat.livejournal.com]

Good. :D

Pauvre Maxime. ;__;

Hello

[jonahmama.livejournal.com]

So after reading this, I am not so sure I should have suggested you read the story I have been posting in stages on sexandthecomite, though I have seen you comment on some things there. The AP History reference gave me a clue as to how old (young) you are, so now I am a bit embarrassed to have said anything. If you were my daughter, I am not so sure I'd want you reading my writing. On the other hand, I can't say that I wasn't doing as much when I was your age.

You do great research. Reading this, I miss my school days, especially the ones in France, when I could truly focus on my research, and spend whole days in libraries and archives.

Re: Hello

[estellacat.livejournal.com]

I'm sure it's nothing I haven't read (or written) before myself. I may not be very old, but I realize a few things about life and about history that many my age probably don't. Take for example the age of the Revolutionaries; just about anyone my age would typically think they're...not old perhaps, but old enough to be beyond the scope of people they could relate to. On the other hand, I can see that they're young, terrifyingly young to be leading a country. Brilliant, eloquent, yes, but not old and sage. Perhaps I'm unusual, or perhaps I no not from where I speak; I'll leave you to judge that, shall I?

You do great research.
I don't know about that; I do research well-enough to distinguish truth from propaganda and I do have the advantage of being able to get into the Stanford University library any time I want....When I'm a historian and write a book on the Revolution, that will probably be the better time to weigh my abilities.

Re: Hello

[maelicia.livejournal.com]

Ah, forgive me but I must intervene: Estella is the wise benjamine of my LJ friends! ;)

I always forget the age she has! She's much serious than I was her age. She knows much more things about the Fr Rev than I do -- even if I'd like to pretend (but I'm bad at pretending -__-' )... and I think she very well knows what sexandthecomite is all about, since she participated to it too ^_^

Re: Hello

[jonahmama.livejournal.com]

Apparently my meaning was not clear above.

What I was trying to say is precisely what you're saying. My compliment was sincere.

When I said I was not so sure that I should have referred her to my story, what I trying to convey is that a person my age making such a suggestion to someone her age could be construed as offensive or at least highly improper. That was certainly not my intention. I understand completely that she is involved in the community (as I said, I have seen comments), and I did not mean to imply that she wouldn't understand or appreciate the story. Only that if my behavior was seen as inappropriate, it was motivated by lack of information, not lack of decency or good judgement. ;)