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[montagnarde1793]

...From the fictional character, Claude Mounier from Robert Margerit's La Revolution. The character is speaking to Danton early in 1794; I think he's right:

"Non, je ne t’accuse pas, je constate seulement, de plus en plus, ce que j’ai toujours soupçonné : tu n’es pas un vrai républicain. Tu es, au fond, comme Mirabeau, comme ton ennemi La Fayette, comme Barnave, Lameth, comme Lanjuinais, comme ton ami Dumouriez. Tu as consenti à la république parce que tu n’as pu faire autrement, quand il ne t’est resté aucun espoir orléaniste. Tu as beau siégé sur la Montagne, tu es un homme du Marais. Si nous te laissions aller ton train, nous aurions bientôt un régime aristocratique sous l’étiquette républicaine, un régime ou l’argent, à coup sur, serait roi, avec l’intrigue pour reine et l’agiotage comme Premier ministre."

My (rough) translation:
"No, I’m not accusing you; I just observe more and more what I’ve always suspected: you are not a true republican. You are, at heart, like Mirabeau, like your enemy La Fayette, like Barnave, Lameth, like Lanjuinais, like your friend Dumouriez. You consented to the republic because you could not do otherwise, when no Orléaniste hope remained to you. Though you have sat with the Montagne you are a man of the Marais. If we let you follow your course, we would soon have an aristocratic regime with republican manners, a regime where money assuredly would be king, with intrigue for queen and peculation as Prime Minister."

From what I've read of it, I think I like this series. The character who speaks the above lines, and probably also the author, seem to like Maxime except for one thing: they reproach him for the FdlES.....And despite Margerit's brilliant insights into just about everything, I think he's missed the point here and isn't looking at it in context. 
...I could go on, explain myself better, but it's getting late and I still have reading to do. I'll try to post with some art soon.

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[maelicia.livejournal.com]

You know, it's not because I hadn't posted yet, that it means I didn't read or was not interested :P

It's a very nice quote... but I have no idea what to reply though. Apart that "a regime where money assuredly would be king, with intrigue for queen and peculation as Prime Minister" doesn't make me happy, especially when I think Dantoniste US are ruling the world :(

[estellacat.livejournal.com]

...I didn't mean it as an attack on you personally; I was just venting in general. It's difficult to know if people are reading or not if they don't comment, especially since I don't update that often. Sometimes, I know, there's just really nothing to say, but it doesn't make it any easier to tell and it's rather tempting to assume that the posts that get lots of comments are the only ones people care about and those that don't no one is interested in and the writer should just shut up on that subject.
...But don't feel that this is directed at you, because it's not; it's just me ranting.

I did want to know what you thought of my translation though.

I shudder as well at the thought that it's the Dantoniste US ruling the world....It makes me rather ashamed to live in this country. I think it explains well enough why, as I've told you on numerous occasions, there are few things I want more than to move.

[maelicia.livejournal.com]

Oh, I know you weren't referring to me. But sometimes when a post reaches the 50th comment, it's just because someone is spamming your LJ :P

Hmm, oh, you mean your English translation? But I can read the French right away... hmm... so I didn't actually... read your translation. Okay, maybe I should now.

A few things more like, say, a revolution? It won't work, you know :(

[estellacat.livejournal.com]

I guess so; it's just a psychological thing, I suppose. *sighs*

Well, you quoted the translation, so I figured you had read it. I also thought you'd probably be the best qualified to know if the translation is any good, because I'm pretty sure you know more of both languages (at once) than anyone else on my F-list. So.

Oh, quit being so pessimistic!

[maelicia.livejournal.com]

Well, how peculiar; I did quote it in English... hmm, I might have read the translation then. My brain is a little messed up these days. The crack and its... consequences, you know.

I just re-read it; it's a very good translation :D


But I love my pessimism! ;__;

[estellacat.livejournal.com]

Crack kills. XD

Yay! ...Well, it's more than I can say for some of my others, which are full of typos and nonsensical sentences because often translate many pages in one late-night sitting.

An odd thing to form an attachment to. It surely won't contribute to your overall happiness.

[maelicia.livejournal.com]

It does. Srsly.

I'm still fighting with the sense of my translation of one of Maxime's letters :/

...I just learned from my Saint-Just bio that I was cyclo-thymic, which is, a synonym for manic-depressive. Not sure that's a good news or not.

[estellacat.livejournal.com]

Or it at least affects your brain function.

Anything of Maxime's is hard to translate, for some reason...Maybe because he writes such long sentences.

You were cyclo-thymic?

[maelicia.livejournal.com]

Ah, yes, the incredibly long sentences are such a pain.

Well, that I am. Not maybe, right now, since I'm on virtual crack. But I guess it comes back tot he same.

I'm suddenly afraid of this sentence I wrote in that previous comment of mine.

[estellacat.livejournal.com]

It's like: when is this paragraph going to end; it's taking up half the page. Oh, wait. That's just one sentence. *facepalm*

But how did the Saint-Just biography inform you of this?

[maelicia.livejournal.com]

Poor Maxime; he was just so enthusiastic in his speeches :(

Oh, and that previous comment of mine scared me because it sounded like I was possessed. Which might be true, who knows -- if I start searching for Maxime and Le Bas tomorrow and proclaiming speeches about my woes and attempt some very bad pr0ny verses, slap me. Please. rainofthenight didn't want. Perhaps the only nice thing about it would be that he'd actually pierce my earlobes himself, which would save me from the pain (and money) of doing it.

This post summarises how I was informed of this.

[estellacat.livejournal.com]

They were good speeches, though....I'm sure they made a lot more sense when he said them than when we try to read or translate them; they're not meant to be read.

Wow. I think....Well, let me tell you about a dream I had. I fell asleep this afternoon and dreamed I was in this vast field/meadow-type-thing, singing the lanterne version of the Ca Ira. This is going to sound very fucked up, but then Eleonore, Elisabeth, Victoire, and Henriette showed up. I'm not kidding. Eleonore said I shouldn't sing such violent music. She sounded rather sad. Naturally, I protested: but it's the Ca Ira! She sang a different version and told me I should sing it instead. I asked her if she really hadn't seen Maxime since his death, and she explained that she had seen quite a bit of him since she died, actually. So I asked why he didn't know where she was. Elisabeth started to say something, but Henriette stepped on her foot and Victoire shook her head. They all looked around the same ages they must have been during the Revolution, and I wanted to ask them how this was, but my mom woke me up to have dinner, so I didn't get to find out. :(

...But anyway.....it was very creepy and disturbing and all those sorts of things...
...On the other hand, it was kind of cool.

[maelicia.livejournal.com]

:O *gasps*

Do you see the shock? That's the shock I had when I read that. I swear.

OMSB. IT WORKS! IT WORKS!!!!134!55!!! WE'RE HAUNTED OMSB.

It sounds awfully In Character of Éléonore, btw :O Élisabeth's behaviour too, in fact.

Oh, wow. The spirits of the Revolution are among us. We even have a sort of ghost mystery too. So. Very. Awesome. Wow. It's real... either that or we've gone completely insane.

Wait... I thought you didn't actually believe in ghosts. Well, okay, I didn't actually believe in them either... hmm.

You really need to get on MSN soon, btw.


P.S. I dreamt of 10 Thermidor... but it didn't seem realistic enough to be inspired by ghosts or something. It was very sad and soppy though. Saint-Just was speaking softly to Maxime, telling him to imagine as if they were elsewhere but together... they were in the tumbril WAAAH. I had tears in my eyes when I woke up and Mom was like: "Wtf, did you dream you were dying or something?"

;__;

[estellacat.livejournal.com]

It sounds awfully In Character of Éléonore, btw :O Élisabeth's behaviour too, in fact.
I know! That's what creeped me out so much. Otherwise I might just write it off as just a dream....I still might, in fact; nobody calls you crazy for your dreams. It just seemed logical (and you know dream logic) when I was sleeping that they were, well, not ghosts in the traditional sense, since they were rather solid and weren't wearing white, but you know...dead. Then again, I usually never remember my dreams...

But, yes, anyway....that's a very depressing dream. :(
Your mother has no sensitivity.

[maelicia.livejournal.com]

Then, again, they sort of seemed real in my own vision. And I don't usually have visions o.O

We already knew aristos had no real sensitivity.

[estellacat.livejournal.com]

This is really starting to creep me out...

Well, yes of course. But still....that was blunt.

[maelicia.livejournal.com]

Well, yes. You're with a friend here.

My mom is blunt ;____;

[estellacat.livejournal.com]

Then again....I've always wanted something like this to happen, I think....Even if I wouldn't admit it. XD

Poor thing, having a mother like that.
...My mother is also rather blunt....but at least she's not a royalist.

[maelicia.livejournal.com]

Well, in fact... me too XD

I know; she's so cruel and says I am. ;__;

[estellacat.livejournal.com]

So we can't really complain, can we?

Sometimes people hate qualities they see in themselves most in others...

[maelicia.livejournal.com]

I must add, though, that even if it seems creepy and disturbing, Revolutionary girls who tell you not to sing a violent song are not as creepy and disturbing than Revolutionary boys who try to freak you out in a violent way XD

Note that it might just be a reflexion of our personalities.......

What might happen if you continue singing the violent Ça Ira though?... :|


P.S. I forgot to ask; do you remember the other version of the song? :O

[estellacat.livejournal.com]

Well, yes, naturally not. I meant merely that seeing them at all was rather creepy and disturbing.

You think? But I want to meet Maxime and Saint-Just and Le Bas too! ;__;

...I don't know.....do you think it's a bad idea?

I don't remember...I could look through all the versions of the song I have and see if it might be one of them...

[maelicia.livejournal.com]

I know... I just hope the last two would know how to behave with you. Really.

Hmm, well it could bring back Éléonore... the bad news are that it could bring her back angry, perhaps.

Ooh, yes :D

[estellacat.livejournal.com]

Well...I didn't draw them smoking crack with a donkey...

I do hope not. Then again, even if she was angry, I'm sure her reenacting her death wouldn't have as much effect as Saint-Just and Le Bas doing so.

...I can't find it. Then again, the book I have doesn't have all versions of all songs.

[maelicia.livejournal.com]

Hey, the donkey was the most adorable donkeys of ALL!

I admit...

What if it's a version that doesn't officially exists? :O

[estellacat.livejournal.com]

It was *very* cute....All I'm saying is they might not have seen it that way.

But I think I'll try to avoid making her angry anyway; not because I'm afraid of what she might do, but because I do want her to like me.

O.o ...Maybe. Perhaps she made it up?

[maelicia.livejournal.com]

Pfftsh. Philistines.

Obviously.

Wow, a made-up song! By a ghost! The never-revealed version of Ça Ira by Éléonore Duplay!!! Maybe she wants you to sing it... so cute.

[estellacat.livejournal.com]

They just can't appreciate great art;)

And the others, I want them to like me too.

Aw, that is pretty cute. She could have made it up while she was still alive though; I'm sure there are thousands of versions of that song we don't know.