...Nevermind

Wednesday, 15 April 2009 19:08
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I remember I had a lot of interesting things to comment on, but I can't remember any of them.

Except that it occurred to me how to make sense of the Revolutionaries' relation to the Roman Republicans. It all makes a lot more sense if you consider that what the former are really admiring in the latter is Republican Virtue Incarnate, rather than the actual flesh-and-blood historical figures. I suppose as long as I can remember that I can safely separate the fictitious 18th century version from the real thing. Which still leaves me with much the same problem, admittedly: I know it's safe to like the former, but I still haven't made up my mind about the latter. Oh, woe. I could always just go with the Progress of Ideas, I suppose. You know, like Victor Hugo's assertion that monasteries are wonderfully useful in the Middle Ages but are horriblly ridiculous in the 19th century? Surely we could come up with something similar for Romans... Oh, now I'm just making excuses.

In any case, enjoy the next bit with our fictional 18th century-style Romans from Brutus et Cassius:

SCENE II.

 

BRUTUS, A SLAVE.

 

BRUTUS.

Slave, what do you want?

 

SLAVE.

This important document

Comes from Rome, and was just given me for you.

                                                                                    (He exits.)

 

BRUTUS.

Let’s read. “You showed a man’s courage;

“To new reverses oppose your virtues.”

Must we weep still more on the destiny of Rome?

Let’s continue. “Beneath the Gods, yield, my dear Brutus:

            “Give tears to Porcia;

            “She who consoled your life,

            “Cato’s daughter is no more.”

O asperity! O affection! O irreparable loss!

But at least her demise renders me alone miserable.

I will know how to contain my sorrow in my breast.

Gods, are you happy? Is this enough misfortune?

I lose everything I love; a criminal shade

Comes from the eternal night to pursue me yet;

Or, if such vain objects have frightened my eyes,

When you take everything from me, if it is you, o great Gods,

Who spread these devastating terrors in me,

Do you detest Brutus and our bloody Ides?

                                    (He falls into a profound reverie.)

Also, I'm almost done with Losurdo's book on revisionism. It is so wonderfully awesome. It's so frustrating that it was written in Italian, because I can't translate a book from French to English which has already been translated from Italian; I'm sure the result would be terrible. And I'm equally sure they'll never translate it into English. D:

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Date: Thursday, 16 April 2009 01:59 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] maelicia.livejournal.com
Oh, you're reading Losurdo! How nice go know. ^__^ And terrible, though expected, that they didn't translate it in English. (They didn't translate all his books from Italian either.) >.> Speaking of good books: did you know that Hervé Kempf had written the sequel to Comment les riches détruisent la planète? :O I learned it last weekend on TV: he just published a shiny new book called Pour sauver la planète, sortez du capitalisme. I bought it today, and skimming through it, and reading the intro, I squeed. A lot. ^____^ (And that book has apparently been translated, or so says the back of my book...) And it should be amazingly noted that Kempf had an incredible timing in publishing his book before the economical crisis. It makes his theories just much more fascinating. :D!

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Date: Thursday, 16 April 2009 02:18 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] estellacat.livejournal.com
I'm only 40 pages from being finished with it too. :D He's absolutely brilliant; that's why I'm so sad I can't translate it and make everyone I know read it. >__<

But I had heard about Kempf's new book; in fact, I ordered it quite a while ago; I don't know if it's come yet, but I had it sent home instead of here, because I knew I'd have no time to read it until summer. Kempf is another brilliant one--lucky he's been translated. I'm currently making my parents read him. ^__^

What, nothing to say about my Romans? I suppose it's true, I am repeating myself a bit. And nothing much has happened in the play yet. >.>;;;

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Date: Thursday, 16 April 2009 02:33 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] maelicia.livejournal.com
I'm so behind all the news. Obviously, he came back to give a conference -- which is tomorrow -- but I learned it... Sunday. ._. So obviously all the places are taken. Argh. >__> I just don't read the flyers on the boards in my uni. And am not there enough, with the strike and all. >.>!!

Oh, I'm sorry, I'm being so distracted these days: I went directly to the news! XD;; Um. I'll re-read that part. ^^;

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Date: Thursday, 16 April 2009 02:46 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] estellacat.livejournal.com
Oh, that's a big mistake: always read the boards. I always do and I still manage to miss things--but imagine if I didn't! It's a pity you can't go. D:

It's perfectly all right. I expect no one on my f-list is really interested; I'm really posting it more for myself, as nutty as it sounds. Though I not-so-secretly always want feeback anyway. XD;

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