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I want to see this movie and now it's too late. ;_____;

Granted, I have no idea if it's any good, and until now I didn't even know it existed, let alone that they were putting it on in Arras last weekend. But still, how can this film exist without my having seen it? The worst is, there are a lot of things I would like to see that I'm too late for - the Revolution, for one - but generally they're things it would have been impossible for me to see anyway (I can't exactly will myself to be born more than 200 years earlier), but this is different. Seeing this movie was temporally and spatially within my grasp and I didn't see it. Instead, I caught up on my reading. I can do that any time. Why, universe, why? D: D: D:


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Date: Thursday, 11 November 2010 20:07 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] francoisejeanne.livejournal.com
Hi! I've never heard about this one either. It's absolutely impossible to find it! IMDb doesn't have it, nor toutlecine.com. And I'm desperate to see at least a bit of it, a scene, a few seconds! :(
I want to visit Arras. And I want to time travel.
Okay, I'm depressed now.

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Date: Thursday, 11 November 2010 20:23 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] estellacat.livejournal.com
IMDb doesn't have it, nor toutlecine.com.
Not to sound paranoid, or anything, but that can't be a coincidence. It's probably good. Edit: The film, that is.

I'm sorry for depressing you. I'm depressed too, believe me.
Edited Date: Thursday, 11 November 2010 20:24 (UTC)

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Date: Thursday, 11 November 2010 21:11 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] francoisejeanne.livejournal.com
I too think it's probably good. The description sounds promising. And the actor looks nice :D
I suppose you've seen which other films were/will be shown. How is Coppola's Marie Antoinette a film about the French revolution? It's a film about pink dresses and candies.

You didn't depress me. Actually, I was all excited when I saw your post, so I rushed home to find more informations just to find out there isn't a thing...

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Date: Thursday, 11 November 2010 22:10 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] estellacat.livejournal.com
The description sounds promising. And the actor looks nice :D
Agreed.

The other films don't matter too much to me; for one thing, I've seen them all, and for another, a lot of them - including the Antoinette movie - are terrible and even if I had been there I wouldn't have watched them again.

It is disappointing, though. Hopefully they'll show it again some time in the future. We'll just have to keep an eye out from now on, now that we know it exists.

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Date: Thursday, 11 November 2010 22:49 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] francoisejeanne.livejournal.com
I've seen most of them, but perhaps I'd watch Les années lumières/terribles again. I think MA stands out as the frivolous one and completely inappropriate.
Oh, why is "Robespierre" unavailable on DVD? :(

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Date: Thursday, 11 November 2010 22:58 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] estellacat.livejournal.com
...I should also perhaps have specified that I have the majority of them. And "La nuit de Varennes" is the only one, apart form Robespierre, that I don't have and that I would enjoy seeing again.

I agree that the Antoinette movie makes so sense in this line-up, since, even if it weren't a terrible movie, it barely touches on the Revolution.

Some of the other movies aren't exactly thrilling either though. And I would include the second half of "La Révolution française" in that. "Les années lumières" is pretty good, although there are places where I would have changed the emphasis, but "Les années terribles" just devolves into terrible Dantoniste propaganda. I also don't like the actor they picked for Robespierre, but I wouldn't mind so much if the script were better. /mini-rant

I wish "Robespierre" were available on DVD too. Alas.

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Date: Thursday, 11 November 2010 23:56 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] francoisejeanne.livejournal.com
I too have the majority of them. I was thinking about getting Danton but that film scares the hell out of me (don't ask...) so it's better I stay away from it. Wajda is actually a good director. I don't know what went wrong with this one.

I liked Les années, but you can see from miles it's a Dantonist film. I noticed it even before I became a Robespierriste. But I think the actor was good. He was too old, of course (don't you just love how they always pick too old actors), but overall I liked him. It wasn't his fault that he had to play a mentally disordered person towards the end (I mean, wtf?!). Yes, some changes in the script would be nice.

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Date: Friday, 12 November 2010 11:30 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] estellacat.livejournal.com
I don't think I need to ask why "Danton" would scare you, or anyone. I can think of about a million reasons. And I have the film! I've never seen anything else of Wajda's, so I can't comment on the quality of his other works, but "Danton" doesn't make me too inclined to check them out.

I suppose I consider it entertaining in a "spot the ridiculous clichés" kind of way. As for the actor playing Robespierre, he's not a bad actor, he just doesn't look the part, he's too old, and in addition to a bad script, I think he was also given bad instructions on interpretation to work with. (That said, while I would prefer an actor who ressembles Robespierre more closely, I don't mind this one nearly as much in the first half, when he's acting sane and reasonable. And, as you say, the fact that this changes in the second film is hardly his fault.)

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Date: Friday, 12 November 2010 04:22 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lorianavoccini.livejournal.com
That movie looks so interesting! I had been looking for a movie about the French Revolution without that stupid cliché of the Evil-Paranoid Robespierre. You can recommend me one? And if it have an actor who looks like him, better. I'm new on this... I don't know where start to search

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Date: Friday, 12 November 2010 11:23 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] estellacat.livejournal.com
Doesn't it though? As for other movies on the Revolution, the only one that features Robespierre that I would recommend is "La Terreur et la Vertu" (in two parts, "Danton" and "Robespierre"). There are a couple of other decent movies on the Revolution that I could recommend as well, but Robespierre isn't in them, alas.

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Date: Friday, 12 November 2010 21:32 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lorianavoccini.livejournal.com
Merci! :D I see that Robespierre is incarnated by Jean Negroni, I know that he is a very good actor. I'll look for it

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Date: Friday, 12 November 2010 22:38 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] estellacat.livejournal.com
He does indeed make a fine Robespierre. I think you should be able to find the film(s), at least in part, on dailymotion.com.

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Date: Friday, 12 November 2010 05:17 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] maelicia.livejournal.com
Omfsb, that Maxime *___* He's so stripey and lacy. :o

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Date: Friday, 12 November 2010 05:19 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] maelicia.livejournal.com
Could you perhaps contact them and ask them if there's any way to have access to that movie? (Just say you're working on him? >_> Or say a friend of yours (coughs, me) is... was... is. >.>;;;) They have a cinémathèque after all?

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Date: Friday, 12 November 2010 11:19 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] estellacat.livejournal.com
It would certainly be worth a try...

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Date: Friday, 12 November 2010 11:19 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] estellacat.livejournal.com
I know! ^O^

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Date: Friday, 12 November 2010 05:55 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] maelicia.livejournal.com
I googled around and found this (it's a .doc file):

"ROBESPIERRE de Hervé Pernot (France, 1989)
Contesté, diabolisé, idéalisé, Robespierre reste aujourd'hui un personnage qui suscite des passions, incarnation de la Terreur ou chantre de l'idéal révolutionnaire.
Réalisé pour Arte, ce docu-fiction retrace les grandes étapes de la carrière de cette figure majeure de la Révolution Française.

Version 50 minutes pour les classes à la demande."

So there might be a copy you could ask for...? Perhaps? Hopefully?
Edited Date: Friday, 12 November 2010 05:56 (UTC)

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Date: Friday, 12 November 2010 11:20 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] estellacat.livejournal.com
Hm, it's possible. Though I would like to have the full-length version, if possible...

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Date: Friday, 12 November 2010 23:15 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] maelicia.livejournal.com
Me too... But maybe they have both copies? Hpefully.

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Date: Friday, 12 November 2010 23:30 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] estellacat.livejournal.com
Well, I'll see what I can do...

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