montagnarde1793: (maximebust)

Hamel, sometimes you're a bit crazy (Robespierre =/= Jesus, really!), but I love you anyway. Here's why (from page 482 of the third tome of his Histoire de Robespierre):

"Tout en reprochant à son collègue [Carnot] de persécuter les généraux fidèles, Maximilien, paraît-il, faisait grand cas de ses talents. Carnot, nous dit-on, ne lui rendait pas la pareille. Cela dénote tout simplement chez lui une intelligence médiocre, quoi qu'en ait dit ses apologistes. Il fut, je le crois, extrêmement jaloux de la supériorité d'influence et de talent d'un collègue plus jeune que lui [ou Saint-Just, qu'Hamel vient de discuter, ou Robespierre] ; et, sous l'empire de ce sentiment, il se laissa facilement entraîner dans la conjuration thermidorienne. Au 9 thermidor, comme en 1815, le pauvre Carnot fut le jouet et la dupe de Fouché."

"All while reproaching his colleague [Carnot] for persecuting faithful generals, Maximilien, it seems, thought much of his talents. Carnot, we are told, did not think the same of him. This quite simply denotes his mediocre intellect, whatever his apologists might have said about it. He was, I believe, extremely jealous of the superiority in influence and talent of a colleague younger than himself [either Saint-Just, whom Hamel just discussed, or Robespierre]; and, under the influence of this sentiment, he let himself be easily dragged into the thermidorian conspiracy. On 9 Thermidor, as in 1815, Carnot was the plaything and the dupe of Fouché."

Pwned.

Also, thanks to Hamel, I have a new theory about the origin of the "55,000" people supposedly executed by "the State" according to the BBC:

Page 473 of the third tome of the Histoire de Robespierre:

"C'est ce Montjoie [le "citoyen Montjoie, que dis-je ! [le] sieur Félix-Christophe-Louis Ventre de Latouloubre de Galart de Montjoie, auteur d'une Histoire de la conjuration de Robespierre"] qui prête à Maximilien le mot suivant: 'Tout individu qui avait plus de quinze ans en 1789 doit être égorgé.' C'est encore lui qui porte à cinquante-quatre mille le chiffre des victimes mortes sur l'échafaud durant les six derniers mois du règne de Robespierre."

"It's this Montjoie [the "citizen Montjoie - what am I saying! - Monsieur Félix-Christophe-Louis Ventre de Latouloubre de Galart de Montjoie, author of a History of Robespierre's Conspiracy"] which attributes the following words to Maximilien: 'Every individual who was more than fifteen years old in 1789 must have his throat cut.' It is again he who brings the number of victims who died on the scaffold during the last six months of Robespierre's reign to fifty-four thousand."

Now, first of all, did it never occur to this Thermidorian libelliste that Robespierre was himself over 15 in 1789? Second, I think it's rather plausible that the BBC just took this number and added another thousand to account for the 4-odd months of the Terror (or even just to round off the figure). Which is just sad. As Hamel goes on to say: "Y a-t-il assez de mépris pour les gens capables de mentir avec une tell impudence ?" ["Is there enough contempt for people capable of lying with such impudence?"]

To the BBC, I shall reiterate: 

Is there enough contempt for people capable of lying with such impudence?
montagnarde1793: (Maxime enfant)
Actually, here he's pretty unequivocal, as E. Hamel reports (Tome III, p. 16 of his Histoire de Robespierre, if anyone's curious):

I believe this is from the session of 17 June 1793. )

Oh, and I'm home now, by the way. My Greek History final was, as I expected, pretty brutal. The Hellenistic period is so dull and confusing. How was I supposed to remember that Antigonus the One-Eyed was one of the five or ten different people who invaded Greece on the pretext of "freeing" the Greek poleis? >.>

But that's all over now, thankfully. For those of you whom I promised to let read my paper, I'll post it as soon as I've gotten it back (I have a thing about showing ungraded papers to people for purposes other than editing. Blame my paranoia. -_-;) In the meantime, I can post a translation of Maxime's defense of Jewish civil rights (qualified by literally every source I read that mentioned it, both French and English, as "eloquent" XD) if anyone would be interested...

Oh, and I voted for the first time this morning. Pity it was such an uninspiring election. Oh well, I did my duty as a citizen, at least. XD

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