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montagnarde1793 ([personal profile] montagnarde1793) wrote2006-03-14 09:57 pm
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Enfin.

I finally finished the paper I just spent the past eight hours writing.
And thus, I bring you randomness, courtesy of Saint-Just:

Okay, so I was flipping through Saint-Just's Oeuvres completes (yes, I managed to insert a quote by Saint-Just into a paper on modern Africa) and found this very short and random "letter to one of his sisters":

Lille, 20 Pluviose [8 February 1794]

My dear sister,

What you ask of me is contrary to you; it is impossible for me to accord it to you. I embrace you with all my heart.


Okay, now I'm curious. Anybody have any theories as to what Saint-Just's sister could have been asking him at that date? Naturally, we're not going to find out the answer, but there's no harm in speculating, is there?

Oh, and a dialogue also written by Saint-Just concerning Organt (which I am too tired to translate at the moment):

M. D. : Monsieur est l'auteur du poème d'Organt ?
L'Auteur : Oui.
M. D. : Vous êtes bien corrompu pour votre âge.
L'Auteur : Et bien sage, peut-être.
M. D. : Que vous ont déjà fait les hommes pour allumer chez vous ce fiel satirique ?
L'Auteur : Je voulais leur plaire.
M. D. : Pourquoi ces malignes allusions ?
L'Auteur : J'ai travaillé d'après des hommes, tant mieux si j'ai attrapé la ressemblance.
M. D.: Vous sapez les rois !
L'Auteur : J'aime les rois, je hais les tyrans.
M. D. : Vous foulez aux pieds les établissements les plus sacrés !
L'Auteur : Ces établissements sont déchus, ils ne sont plus sacrés mais vils.
M. D. : Votre Charlemagne est le roi; votre Cunégonde est la reine.
L'Auteur : C'est vous qui l'avez dit.
M. D. : Votre singe Étienne Péronne est le chevalier Dubois.
L'Auteur : Respectez mon singe.
M. D. : Votre Pépin est le comte d'A... Il acheta, il y a quelques années, un cheval 1 700 louis. Ce cheval s'appelait Pépin et...
L'Auteur : Que Pépin s'appelle cheval !
M. D. : Vous avez honni les états généraux. Ne craignez-vous pas ?...
L'Auteur : Je ne crains rien de rien.
M. D. : Quelle horrible impiété règne dans votre livre !
L'Auteur : Priez pour moi.
M. D. : Quel portrait d'une reine !
L'Auteur : Quel original !
M. D. : Quelle diatribe contre le Parlement, le théâtre, et l'Académie !
L'Auteur : Quelle diatribe contre le bon sens que ces trois corps !
M. D. : Quelle peinture horrible de ?... et de la Trinité.
L'Auteur : Vous riez !
M. D. : Ne craignez-vous pas maître Antoine, dont vous avez honni le cochon et le cochon n'est-il point maître Antoine ?
L'Auteur : Apparemment.
M. D. : On vous rôtira.
L'Auteur : Je m'en fous.

It always cracks me up for some reason.

[identity profile] daughtermestizo.livejournal.com 2006-03-15 09:43 pm (UTC)(link)
Okay, now I can't WAIT to get my copy! Damn that slow bookstore! Anyways...

Anybody have any theories as to what Saint-Just's sister could have been asking him at that date?
She was probably telling him to get a wife.

D-M

[identity profile] estellacat.livejournal.com 2006-03-16 07:07 am (UTC)(link)
*feels bad for having gotten it immediately, and quite by chance*

It does seem a distinct possibility, but why would that seem "contrary" to her?

[identity profile] daughtermestizo.livejournal.com 2006-03-16 11:39 pm (UTC)(link)
*shakes fist at you*

Er, because she would get a husband? And Saint-Just wanted a husband, but she was telling him to get a wife?

[identity profile] estellacat.livejournal.com 2006-03-17 12:01 am (UTC)(link)
*wails* I'm sorry!

There's something in that logic I'm not quite getting...

[identity profile] daughtermestizo.livejournal.com 2006-03-17 12:02 am (UTC)(link)
Well, how did he mean "contrary to you"?

[identity profile] estellacat.livejournal.com 2006-03-17 12:13 am (UTC)(link)
I'm not sure; he just says, "ce que tu me demandes est contraire a toi; il m'est impossible de te l'accorder."

[identity profile] daughtermestizo.livejournal.com 2006-03-17 12:19 am (UTC)(link)
See....yeah...that's confusing. Maybe Antoine secretly had a bad grammar problem.

[identity profile] estellacat.livejournal.com 2006-03-17 12:22 am (UTC)(link)
I'm sure she understood what he was talking about. Still, that's not particularly useful, is it?

[identity profile] daughtermestizo.livejournal.com 2006-03-17 01:18 am (UTC)(link)
I was going to say that, actually. Curses! If only we could find the original letter!

[identity profile] estellacat.livejournal.com 2006-03-17 01:28 am (UTC)(link)
Well assuming it wasn't completely illegible, I doubt how that would help...

[identity profile] daughtermestizo.livejournal.com 2006-03-17 01:29 am (UTC)(link)
Sorry, my comment wasn't very clear. *facepalm* I meant his sister's letter.

[identity profile] estellacat.livejournal.com 2006-03-17 01:32 am (UTC)(link)
Oh, yes. That would be helpful. It might be around some place...

[identity profile] estellacat.livejournal.com 2006-03-17 01:40 am (UTC)(link)
We'd have to know his general letter-keeping habits to figure that out.

[identity profile] daughtermestizo.livejournal.com 2006-03-17 01:42 am (UTC)(link)
Hell. Though, speaking of which, what were Maxime's general letter-keeping habits?

[identity profile] estellacat.livejournal.com 2006-03-17 01:46 am (UTC)(link)
If I recall, I think he was supposed to have filed them all and kept them for... a really long time.

[identity profile] daughtermestizo.livejournal.com 2006-03-17 01:47 am (UTC)(link)
Hee hee! *pictures Maxime with Rolodex*

[identity profile] estellacat.livejournal.com 2006-03-17 01:49 am (UTC)(link)
*cracks up* Not. that. kind. of. filing.

[identity profile] daughtermestizo.livejournal.com 2006-03-17 01:51 am (UTC)(link)
*stifles laughter* I know, I know...

[identity profile] estellacat.livejournal.com 2006-03-17 01:55 am (UTC)(link)
I think someone said he used to keep those love letters random women wrote to him under his mattress XD.

[identity profile] daughtermestizo.livejournal.com 2006-03-17 01:58 am (UTC)(link)
Radnom women as in Saint-Just? I mean, that must've gotten to be a pretty big pile after a while.

[identity profile] estellacat.livejournal.com 2006-03-17 02:00 am (UTC)(link)
I mean of the more traditional sort. *sporfle* From what I hear, you're probably right...

[identity profile] daughtermestizo.livejournal.com 2006-03-17 02:03 am (UTC)(link)
I can see his mattress teetering precariously on top of a pile of letters, with Eléonore just sort of frowning at it.

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[identity profile] pakaboori.livejournal.com 2006-03-23 03:33 am (UTC)(link)
Hi, just passing by from [livejournal.com profile] daughtermestizo's journal. You may already have thought of this, but to me it seemed that he was saying "What you ask of me is not characteristic of you; I cannot accept that it is coming from you." Something along those lines -- translating the sense of the words a bit roughly? Or at least how I understood them. Maybe she did something shameful and wanted him to ignore her -- proposing some kind of estrangement. Maybe, on the other hand, because of something he did.

Interesting fragment though. Is there really no way of finding out what it was about?

[identity profile] estellacat.livejournal.com 2006-03-23 04:24 am (UTC)(link)
Hello! It's possible you're right about that, but I doubt, in answer to your last question, that there's any way of knowing.
...Unless the archives have something on it, that is.