Antoinette movie

Monday, 29 May 2006 10:25
montagnarde1793: (Maxime)
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This movie is really going to suck. Muchly.

http://www.liberation.fr/page.php?Article=384772

Apparently the People are reduced to the stereotypical "angry mob" so if the average viewer does not like barbie-pink!Antoinette, they'll have little choice in sympathies, because she and the rest of the Court will be the only human characters.

It's a lot easier for most people to sympathize with one person, even if she is the most annoying bimbo they have ever seen, than a "mob" with a good reason to be angry!

That said, from what I can tell, Liberation is treating this with irony, and seems to be pointing out that the subject matter is somewhat....irrelevant: big surprise there!
...at any rate, it's not a positive review, and I like the publication overall, so...

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Date: Tuesday, 30 May 2006 03:28 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] estellacat.livejournal.com
Worse than the "trying to make a statement" cases of inaccuracy, are the ones where they don't seem to realize they're being historically inaccurate; Rameau is Baroque. Please people, I know you know your modern musique is incorrect, but did you know that this is supposed to take place in the 1770-80s???

...That would be nice.

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Date: Tuesday, 30 May 2006 03:45 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] josiana.livejournal.com
I think they just assume the American audiences won't know the difference. Or perhaps they really don't know. Or they don't care.

Um. Maybe all the copies of the film will spontaneously combust? *pats comfortingly on the shoulder*

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Date: Tuesday, 30 May 2006 03:55 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] estellacat.livejournal.com
I bet they don't know. That's what makes it worse.

That would be good... *sniffs*

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Date: Tuesday, 30 May 2006 04:01 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] josiana.livejournal.com
Probably not. They do not appear to be overly concerned with accuracy. Just OMG PREETY CLOTHEZ and SHINY MUSIKS.

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Date: Tuesday, 30 May 2006 04:05 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] estellacat.livejournal.com
Yup. That seems to be pretty much it.

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Date: Tuesday, 30 May 2006 04:12 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] josiana.livejournal.com
And there's not even any guillotining. ;____;

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Date: Tuesday, 30 May 2006 05:47 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] estellacat.livejournal.com
...Which, of course, is quite possibly the worst thing about it.

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Date: Tuesday, 30 May 2006 05:57 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] josiana.livejournal.com
I know. They seem to be determined to focus on the fuzzy, happy, fairytale marketable aspects of her life, or something.

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Date: Tuesday, 30 May 2006 05:59 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] estellacat.livejournal.com
It would be a good theory, except for the fact that the guillotine is infinitely marketable. No, Sofia Coppola's only doing this for her own vanity. Many people think up Mary Sues; she has the wealth and influence to be able to make a movie about hers. I just wish she wouldn't inflict it on the rest of us!

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Date: Tuesday, 30 May 2006 06:06 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] josiana.livejournal.com
It is? I always assumed people would prefer not to that sort of thing. Or found it depressing, or something.
That makes a lot more sense...
I know. It's horrible. *sobs quietly*

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Date: Tuesday, 30 May 2006 06:10 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] estellacat.livejournal.com
Well considering all the hype around the bicentenial....Not that I know personally of course, but from what I hear there was a large market for toy guillotines and the like. *shrugs*
*weeps for the future of humanity* Why, Sofia, WHY?

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Date: Tuesday, 30 May 2006 06:22 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] josiana.livejournal.com
*giggles* Awww. I want one. XD

I have no idea. *sobs* Why couldn't she just be dangerously obsessed with Marat instead? At least that would be original.

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Date: Tuesday, 30 May 2006 14:41 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] estellacat.livejournal.com
I think you can still get them....somewhere.

And hilarious! OMSB, that would make such a funny movie! Especially if Marat wears a fluffy dress.

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Date: Tuesday, 30 May 2006 20:44 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] josiana.livejournal.com
I'll look for them. Muahahahaha. X3

I know. They could have angry punk rock music, too. A pink one. He might ooze all over it, though.

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Date: Tuesday, 30 May 2006 23:40 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] estellacat.livejournal.com
I saw a guillotine paperweight once...

XD That would be beyond awesome. Ewww....then again, it is Marat. It can always be washed, I suppose.

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Date: Tuesday, 30 May 2006 23:49 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] josiana.livejournal.com
*giggles*

Punk!Marat is an amusing mental image. Oooh, that gives me an idea. It can be a tacky romantic comedy. He could fall in love with Simone Evrard based solely on her ability to clean his frilly dresses. Of course that would mess up the timeline a bit, but no one will know the difference.

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Date: Tuesday, 30 May 2006 23:50 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] estellacat.livejournal.com
And my sister says she had a History teacher who had a miniature working model. It decapitated pencils.

And about as accurate as Barbie!Antoinette. ...That would be rather amusing, in a somewhat sick way.

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Date: Tuesday, 30 May 2006 23:55 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] josiana.livejournal.com
Were they counter-revolutionary pencils? That seems like something one wouldn't want to have around children...

Probably. And no one will scream at us for it, because Marat has no rabid fangirls or fanboys. At least, I don't think so.

I am vaguely tempted to try and draw a poster for it now. With sickening pink font. XD

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Date: Tuesday, 30 May 2006 23:59 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] estellacat.livejournal.com
Naturally. Probably, but he was a High School teacher, so it was....not as bad, I guess.

Well that one historian, Massin tried to do the same rehabilitation for Marat as was (and is being) done for Robespierre, so presumably he has some fans...

You so should; it would be hysterical! ...Please?

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Date: Wednesday, 31 May 2006 00:14 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] josiana.livejournal.com
Oh. That's good. It might be awkward if lots of small children suddenly lost fingers. O.o

Really? I didn't know that.

I'll try. I doubt it will look good, since I can't draw Marat at all. Oh well. I can blame my artistic shortcomings on the desire to be trendy and connect with modern audiences.

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Date: Wednesday, 31 May 2006 00:29 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] estellacat.livejournal.com
Really. I don't think they teach small children about the Revolution though, do they?

*nods* I haven't read his biography of Marat, but he makes allusions to it in his Robespierre biography.

Why not? That's what Sofia Coppola did.

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Date: Wednesday, 31 May 2006 00:45 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] josiana.livejournal.com
Um. I vaguely remember being taught something about it when I was 11, but I guess it varies from school to school.

Oooh, cool. :D

Do I have to make Marat a thinly veiled representation of myself, though? Because I don't think that will work so well.

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Date: Wednesday, 31 May 2006 01:04 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] estellacat.livejournal.com
Well, I mean, not in detail, right?

...I've never actually read a biography of Marat. Then again, I've never actually read a full biography of any Revolutionary except Robespierre--I probably ought to.

You don't have to; I don't see how you could without distorting someone's character. Although, it would undoubtedly be amusing.

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Date: Wednesday, 31 May 2006 01:46 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] josiana.livejournal.com
No, alas.

I haven't either, but that's mainly due to not being able to find any.

And since amusement is what we're going for, I suppose that would be a good thing?

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Date: Wednesday, 31 May 2006 01:51 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] estellacat.livejournal.com
They probably thought it would traumatize the poor, innocent children;)

...I'm sure they exist. I have one on Saint-Just, but I'm not sure I want to read it considering the author referred to him as "demonic" in the preface...

Possibly, but I think it would be difficult to create a self-insert!Marat....not to mention highly disturbing.

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